Liam Scheff did this expose of AIDS experiments on Black and Hispanic children in New York back in 2003-4 and Pam Popper just did the review of it below so now it is timely to remember.
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Liam was a good journalist. He was also a good internet friend of mine at times until he sadly committed suicide in 2017.
He deserves better than getting his expose of the Incarnation story laughed at and made into a Snopes joke.
Heather Anderson from Triple Zed radio interviewed Liam Scheff in 2005, the transcript on the orphanage is at the end here.
Liam Scheff Interview on AIDS Experiments on Orphans. 4ZZZ Radio 2005
I organized that interview for Triple Zed radio as I thought if I did it my questions would be biased as I knew about the HIV/AIDS science problems from 1998.
These were Fauci experiments on HIV tagged children up to 2000’s, where at least 200 kids died, the media covered it up, the BBC retracted their story on it.
Their video is here.
BBC GUINEA Pigs FOSTER kids-NEW YORK CITY 2005
I was told the City of New York put Bill de Blasio in charge to keep it from being talked about ever again. The kids got the same drugs that killed Freddie Mercury and 40 million people since 1987.
Children were stolen from single mothers with addictions and then experimental drugs inserted through tubes in their stomachs.
Pam Popper here has just raised the ghosts again on Bitchute.
This is a stunning 10 minute review, she must know people who took AZT.
THE HIV/AIDS CHILDREN OF THE 1980S AND 90S
The World Tribune did a short summary recently.
‘Dr. Anthony Fauci’s National Institutes of Health (NIH) approved drug trial experiments on hundreds of AIDS orphans in New York City. Over 200 of the orphans died during or after the experiments, according to Liam Scheff, the investigative reporter who broke the story.
The Incarnation Children’s Center (ICC) “began testing drugs on its orphan population in 1992, the same year they became a subsidiary of Columbia University’s Pediatric AIDS Clinical Trial Unit, under Dr. Anne Gershon,” Scheff noted. “In 2003, I went undercover inside the facility and saw the effects of the drugs on the children myself.” Scheff broke the story in an article entitled The House that AIDS Built that first ran on Indymedia.org.
Scheff said his investigation found that the NIH and Columbia Presbyterian Hospital acted unethically.
The Associated Press reported in June 2005: “The government has concluded at least some AIDS drug experiments involving foster children violated federal rules designed to ensure vulnerable youths were protected from the risks of medical research.” Fauci was the NIH AIDS Coordinator before being appointed as the first Director of the Office of AIDS research when the office was established in 1988. He served in that capacity until 1994. Fauci became director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) in 1984 and still holds that position.
Scheff reported several deaths in children at the ICC during the drug trials, adding that “although the mainstream denied that any deaths were due to drug toxicity, they admit that over 200 children died.”
In 2005, the City of New York hired the VERA Institute to produce a final report on the drug trials. VERA was given no access to medical records for any of the children used in trials. Their report was published in 2008.
VERA reported that 25 children died during the drug studies, that an additional 55 children died following the studies (in foster care), and, according to Tim Ross, Director of the Child Welfare program at VERA (as of 2009), 29 percent of the remaining 417 children who were used in drug studies had died (out of a total 532 children that are admitted to have been used).
No payment or compensation was ever paid to any of the children used in the trials, or to their families, Scheff noted.
Many of the drugs (like AZT and its analogues) that were used in the experiments on the AIDS orphans in New York City had previously been approved for use in adults and “evidenced life-threatening and fatal toxicities,” Scheff reported. “So why put a drug with severe recorded toxicities into a population of black and Hispanic orphans?”
Scheff noted: “Incarnation’s orphans live at the bottom of the American class system. Often the children of drug users, they were born into ill health and poverty. Additionally (and like all AIDS patients), these children were, because of their HIV status, written off as a loss by the medical authority, before they even got a chance to live.”
Why wasn’t Fauci’s NIH interested in competitive AIDS research?
“That’s the billion-dollar question,” Scheff noted. “That is, if inexpensive micronutrients and competitive disease and treatment models prove more successful than the current research, it will represent a loss of billions for the AIDS drug and research industry.” Flashback: Fauci’s NIH funded experiments on AIDS orphans in New York City
Flashback: Fauci’s NIH funded experiments on AIDS orphans in New York City
The Orphanage Story interview by Heather Anderson from 4ZZZ radio Brisbane.
Heather: I would especially like to know about the story that you covered about the orphanage in New York, about the forced AIDS experiments in that orphanage. Do you mind talking a little bit about that?
Liam: No, sure. If there’s a purpose or a fate to anything I would say that one of the reasons that I got brought into this or one of the things that brought me into it was this thing that happened in New York.
I was told by some activists in New York of an orphanage in New York, and I was put in touch with a woman who had her kids – they were her niece and nephew – taken away because she wasn’t giving them these AIDS drugs.
Now the reason she wasn’t giving them the drugs was because the drugs, when she gave them, made them, especially the young, boy very, very, very sick, to the point of total lethargy, stunting of growth all sorts of really horrible problems.
The orphanage he was taken into was called The Incarnation Children’s Center, and this was established in the late 80’s early 90’s as essentially an iceberg on a very cold sea. It was a net to grab – to pick up these babies that were abandoned at the hospital from the women who were doing crack, from these crazy crack addict mothers who were ruining their lives and ruining their children’s lives.
So there were all these crack babies, and this Incarnation Children’s Center was really rescuing them. Okay, that’s a good thing from my perspective; but guess what happened? In a couple of years the AIDS establishment sees an opportunity, and they decided these aren’t crack babies anymore – these are now AIDS babies – and all you have to do to convince anybody is to give them one of these tests.
And they decided they can use these kids to experiment with drugs on, and to shove all of these old failed, cancer chemotherapy drugs that they call AIDS drugs on, and that’s what they do, and that’s what they were doing.
And I went there in 2003, and I went in with my source who’s kids were there, and I saw the kids with the tubes shoved into their noses and into their abdomen.
Drugs like AZT, which is a nucleoside analogue, the job of these failed cancer drugs is to stop cell development and growth, and the job is to do it at the genetic level or to stop protein assembly, and the job is to do that right there in the cell.
And these drugs are good at doing that, and they will stop your cells from growing and developing. They’ll stop your bone marrow from producing blood and you’ll get anemia and you’ll die. You’ll have deformations because the proteins won’t assemble correctly. You’ll get lumps on your body. And that’s what these kids exhibited.
And this is what I saw in the orphanage, and this is what I saw in the kids that I knew. And I interviewed a lot of people from there, I interviewed kids from there, I interviewed health care workers from there for about a period of 2 years. I wrote about that in a story called “The House That AIDS Built,” a story called “Inside Incarnation.” You can read these all at my website so I’ll give that to you at the end.
And I got the same story over and over again: “We shoved the drugs in the kids mouths when they were awake, when they were asleep; they throw up all the time, they have diarrhea all the time, they are miserably unhappy with the drugs but we have to give them because they are ‘life saving drugs’” – to which I say are they ‘life saving’ drugs? They die on the drugs.
When the kids didn’t want to take the drugs – this was the story that I got from everybody, including the doctor, Dr. Katherine Painter who ran the place – they’d get them through tubes shoved into their nose, and if they don’t take them that way, they’ll take them in for surgery at Columbia Presbyterian and they’ll put an abdominal gastric tube, and they’ll shove the drugs through the tube.
And this is apparently standard practice in AIDS care for children. You can find the study from University of California, San Diego, I believe. That says that you can reduce the time you can get these kids to take these very poisonous drugs.
I don’t buy it. I read the labels. The labels say that the drugs stop the development of normal cells, of blood; that you can die taking them, that kids throw them up when they take them; that’s good enough for me.
I mean it’s fine with me if an adult wants to take a drug that kills them. I couldn’t care less if they have a chance to read the package material. Who am I to stop you throwing yourself off a bridge if that’s really what you want to do and you feel that it’s in your best interest, or whatever it is, or if the drugs make you feel better for some reason, then they do, then I wouldn’t take that away from you.
But these kids had no choice, and many of them die, and when they die, of course, they call it AIDS.
They used Thalidomide – a very poisonous drug – on one of the kids, because this is a drug now being used in AIDS care because, it’s all… it’s pretty insane stuff… and I, people have lost their way, and they’re pretty crazy; I don’t know, I don’t really understand all of the mentality behind doing this.
But that was the story. We made a movie, we worked with a company, there was a BBC documentary that we worked on called “Guinea Pig Kids” that was seen by a lot of people and then got buried, I think, because it’s just too ugly. I don’t think people want to deal with it.
The original BBC story should be here.
The original stories Liam did are here.
‘Jacklyn Herger is a pediatric AIDS nurse who worked at ICC in the early 90s. In 1996 she began the adoption process for two HIV-positive children from ICC through Catholic Home Bureau In 1998, the girls, Elaine, age six, and Liz, age four, came to live with Herger, her husband and five-year-old daughter as a family. A trained nurse, Herger gave AIDS drugs “by the book.” To her shock and amazement, it was only when she stopped giving the drugs that the girls got better.
Liam Scheff: What were the girls like when you first got them?
Jacklyn Herger: The girls had incredible psychological damage from growing up in medical institutions. They were both developmentally delayed, but in different ways. Liz could barely move. She couldn’t talk, play, or even walk; all she’d do was overeat. She was obese. She’d been on AIDS drugs since birth; she was put on AZT and Nevirapine shortly after I got her. Her hipbones were severely damaged because of the drugs; she had to have surgery to lengthen the tendons in her legs. She was also neurologically damaged, one of the side effects of AZT. She’d fall over and not feel it. She couldn’t respond. She wasn’t able to be a child.
Her sister Elaine was the exact opposite. She was intensely hyperactive, and she refused to eat. She’d come to the table, cross her arms, and say “I want my pediasure” – the drink that she lived on She had no connection to eating food. She’d been on AIDS drugs from infancy. She’d had debilitating glandular and ear infections. Elaine also had severe cognitive difficulties. The doctors told us she was born mentally retarded.
LS: How did you manage the situation?
Jacklyn: I gave all my energy to helping the girls heal and grow. We gave them healthy, expensive, organic food and lots of rest and sleep. They had speech and physical therapy, a good private school, tutoring. And lots of love. And we gave them the AIDS meds, by the book. Yet, after a year and a half of trying, there was no change. We were up against a brick wall
I was looking for answers, so I went to a lecture on HIV by Philip Incao, an MD with a background in Holistic Medicine. He talked about problems with the HIV diagnosis, the toxicity of the drugs and their effect on the immune system. What he said made me feel angry and threatened.
I confronted him after the lecture. I said, “I have two HIV positive children in my home right now, and you’re recommending that I take them off the drugs?” He said “Yes” “The drugs are too toxic for children.”
These are historical pieces from me on AIDS for further reading.
The Muddled Beginnings of The AIDS ‘Pandemic’ in 1981
How Rock Hudson’s Liver Failure Conned 325 Million Out Of Congress
Lawyer Anthony Brink Interview on AIDS and AZT Drugs 2004
Dr. Mohammed Al Bayati 4ZZZ Radio Interview On AIDS Causes 2004
Michael Ellner from HEAL New York Interview in 2005 on AIDS History
Interview with Kim Marie Bannon, USA, about her court against the HIV test in 2005
